ArcHydro in ArcGIS 10

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07-14-2010 02:31 PM
LaurenLaPort
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Hi
Has anyone upgraded to ArcGIS 10 and installed/used ArcHydro with it?
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RonSantini
New Contributor III
Ron,

It is a common admin problem with ArcGIS--failure to uninstall 3rd party extensions prior to the ArcGIS uninstall.

Unfortunately, Aquaveo does not publish a AHGW cleanup utility that I've come across. You might contact their technical support to ask if such a tool is available.

If not, two ways to proceed--first reinstall ArcGIS 9.x & then run the AHGW uninstaller (unpleasant since you've already loaded ArcGIS 10).

Alternative--try an uninstaller, I use CCleaner (www.piriform.com) when full package is intact, but you probably want to start with Revo Uninstaller (www.revouninstaller.com)--the Pro version is necessary for 64-bit use--the freeware version is fully functional for 32-bit systems.

Revo will perform as much of the uninstall as possible--it then finishes with a registry and configuration file cleanup with adjustable agressiveness.  Following a Revo uninstall, I'll usually run through a CCleaner registry check to be sure all is good.  Reboot! Then proceed with another ArcHyrdo 2.x install attempt.

Stuart


Stuart:  No luck, but here is what I have done:

1. Uninstalled ArcGIS Desktop 10
2. Reinstalled ArcGIS 9.3
3. Reinstalled Aquaveo AHGW
4. Uninstalled Aquaveo AHGW
5. Uninstalled ArcGIS9.3
6. Ran ApRegWorks
7. Rechecked with ApRegWorks - Registry for ApFramework and ArcHydro empty
8. Ran Uniblue Registry Booster to clean up registry
9. Reinstalled ArcGIS 10
10. Rebooted computer
11. Attempted to reinstall ArcHydro2
12. Received Message: "Setup has detected a previous version of Arc Hydro Tools installed on the system"

So I am not sure where to go from here.
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V_StuartFoote
MVP Frequent Contributor
Ron,

Answered you over on the Desktop Installation & Configuration forum.

Stuart
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EmilyMcCoy
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Thanks so much!
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PeterWilson
Occasional Contributor III
Hi everyone

Just an update, ArcHydro 2.0.1.47 is available from the ESRI ftp server. It has resolved a lot of the errors that I was receiving with regards to problems generating HydroID's and Adjoint Catchments. I have also seen that HEC-GeoRas and HEC-HMS are currently being updated for ArcGIS 10 and should be available this summer according to HEC's website.

A question that I have if anyone knows, will ArcHydro 2.0 final support ArcGIS 10 Terrain Datasets and Mosaic Datasets?

Regards
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SurvalentTechnology
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Hi, the ArcHydro team members,

I there any way which could allow ArcHydro to work with my own ArcEngine application ?

For the reason that I can't install the whole ArcGIS(or ArcMap) to the clients' computer, thus I just wanna add this ArcHydro toolbar to my own application.

Looking foward to your reply, much thanks.
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YacoubRaheem
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Hi,

I am running Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3 (Pentium Dual-Core CPU, 3.07 GHz, 1.96 GB RAM). I have ArcGIS 10. I have installed the ArcGIS 10 Service Pack 3 (http://resources.arcgis.com/content/patches-and-service-packs?fa=viewPatch&PID=66&MetaID=1807).

I installed what I thought was the latest version of ArcHydro 10 version 2.01.133 from here:
ftp://RiverHydraulics:river.1114@ftp.esri.com/ArcHydro/Setup10/.

I am delineating watersheds from 30m ASTER DEMs. I go through the standard pre-processing steps (Fill Sinks, Flow Direction, Flow Accumulation, Stream Definition, Stream Segmentation, Catchment Grid Delineation, Catchment Polygon Processing). Then I get to Drainage Line Processing and I get the following error:

Error HRESULT E_fail has been returned from a call to a COM component.

I tried uninstalling ArcHydro and then installing HEC-GeoHMS 10.0 (http://www.hec.usace.army.mil/software/hec-geohms/download.html) which automatically installs ArcHydro10 version 2.0.1.125. When I go through the same process, I get the same error.

This does not happen when I run this on Windows 7 machine (Intel Core i5, 2.53 GHz, 4GB Ram, 64-bit OS).

I am mainly a user and not so much a developer...

Please help!!!

Thank you,
Yacoub
email: yacoub@stanford.edu
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ThomasColson
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  1. have you deleted the contents of the windows temp folder? C:\Users\username\Local Settings\Temp

  2. are you accessing the source data from a path with spaces in it?

  3. have you tried performing the same function with the Arc Hydo Tools from Arc Toolbox?

  4. What is the projection of the native ASTER DEM? If not projected, there is a problem
  5. Have you copied the source data to a NEW directory and started again?

  6. How have you filled sinks? With AH fill sinks or another method?

  7. How many catchment polygons are there? There is a limit of the number of vertices/FC's that AH can process?

  8. Have you tried using a virtual hard drive utility like ramdisk? Sometime AH chokes because it's waiting on your incredibly slow mechanical hard drive to spit data back out.

  9. Did you install SP3 before or after HMS/AH?

  10. How big is your DEM? Rows? Columns?

  11. Have you tried multiplying your DEM by some constant, say, 10000 and coverting to int? See pdf in AH download dir on this topic. Speeds things up.

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V_StuartFoote
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Yacoub,

Would add to Tom's questions which are all valid--especially clearing the Temp space between runs. Can you add more memory?

Since the Aster DEM processing runs to completion on a 64-bit Windows 7 with 4GB available RAM it suggests it is a memory management issue under your XPsp3 32-bit system. That is to say, the processing fits and runs to completion in the full 4GB user-mode memory space of a 32-bit program in 64-bit address space.

So, is your Windows XPsp3 system limited by BIOS to 2 GB RAM, and can you add RAM? Or is it a laptop that is already maxed out? Adding at least another 1GB of RAM should allow the 32-bit OS some head space to complete the processing in available 2GB per-process user-mode memory address space.

You might also need to add a /3GB flag to the boot.ini file which would expand available user address space, and allow each process its full 2GB limit--but don't set this flag unless you ARE able to add additional RAM!

Some additional tweaks of 32-bit programs to set LargeAddressAware values can be helpful to increase per-process address space beyond 2GB (notably for python.exe and pythonw.exe). But I would not pursue those just yet as it would add another variable and the existing unmodified programs run to completion under 64-bit OS in when not memory constrained.

Stuart
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YacoubRaheem
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WOW!!! You guys are rock stars! Thank you so much for the support!

The solution ended up being relatively simple... though of course it took me 8 hrs to finally narrow it down the problem!

I started with an ASTER file. It was the first file I brought in so of course the data frame was set to that. I then opened toolbox from within ArcMap and projected the ASTER file. Then I ran the terrain preprocessing steps on that projected file... that was my problem.

I needed to close ArcMap and first add the projected file, so that the Data Frame was in the spatial reference as the DEM I was processing. It seems like ArcHydro likes it when the data and the Data Frame are in the spatial reference. I guess its some issued related to reprojecting on the fly.

Some of the other silly things I tried that actually seemed to sometimes help (it definitely does seem like ArcHydro is buggy...) are to NOT keep the data in the "C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\ArcGIS" folder, and instead keep them in a folder right on the C drive. ArcHydro perhaps doesn't like file names and extensions with spaces. Also, for some reason I was getting errors when I was projecting into Africa Albers Equal Area Conic but NOT when I was projecting into UTM 37S (Mozambique). But that was actually only a problem with the ArcHydro version that installed when I installed HEC-GeoHMS 10, not when I installed the latest ArcHydro.

Thanks again! I haven't posted on one of these forums in years and its great to know there is such immediate response!
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AlvanKarlin
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Hi.  We have been using ArcGIS10 and ArcHydro 2 for quite some time, but when we installed ArcGIS10/ Service Pack 2, we seem to be having several processing issues.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?
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