ArcPad on Android

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04-06-2012 10:33 AM
KeithAubin
New Contributor III
You guys really need to get with the times and offer ArcPad on Android. It's really sad that there is no real GIS tablet software from you guys yet, just a limited viewer. Windows mobile died nearly 6 years ago, and the hardware is awful and way overpriced to boot. If you don't watch out some small time start up will zoom right on by while you're still lost in windows mobile land. Yes I know you have android apk's and whatnot, but that does not help me very much. I need an app as powerful as ArcPad that runs on Android. Heck I'd even settle for iOS at this point.

You guys really are missing out on a huge market and opportunity to get GIS tools into the hands of the masses. Almost everyone has an Android or iPhone these days, plus all the tablets. All we need is software, I'm talking real GIS tools like ArcPad not simple viewer apps like ArcGIS Explorer. Is this ever going to happen, or should I start looking to other companies for a solution? The ESRI ArcGIS android app just does not cut it right now.
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GarethWalters
Occasional Contributor III
Hi Keith,

Follow this link to the Ideas Portal. Someone has already posted it and the more people that vote on it the more likely it is to happen.

http://ideas.arcgis.com/ideaView?id=08730000000bsj1AAA

Cheers,

Gareth
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DanikBourdeau
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I agree, it would be nice to have a good GIS software for my smart phone.  However, I would never send out a team in the field to do data collection with an IPhone or a Galaxy tablet.  We would end up having to replace the units every week.  As long as Trimble and Handheld keep making field computers running Windows mobile I think we're stuck with ArcPad the way it is.
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PatrickMurphy
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I just bought a Samsung Galaxy Player 4" and it is awsome for data collection.  I have my own vegetation data collection software for Android called DAtaPoint and it runs great.  There is a built in GPS, 2 cameras and on and on.  Only about $170-$200 so nice price for a field crew.  Now if only ArcPad would run on it I would be very happy.
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NormanyClark
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I can run Arcpad separately from the expensive even to rent GPS device which is even better since I mostly just rent the GPS device when I need it, but use ArcPad all the time.  Currently I run ArcPad on an HP211 but they don't make those anymore. Get ahead of the curve and develop ArcPad as a stand-alone GIS program for the Android that doesn't need internet/phone access for maps etc.
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TOMBELL
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I recently read a discussion on facebook requesting that ESRI create an ArcPad version that runs on the Android OS. Several ESRI employees associated with ArcPad development responded in one way or another. I was amazed or should I say dismayed by their contention that no one would want to use a phone as a data gathering platform because in general, they are not rugged devices.

As a long time ArcPad and rugged PDA user, I would like to point out some of the realities of using so called rugged PDAs. First, the low end devices may be rugged while still in the box but in fact out there in the real world, they don't last as long as we expect. These devices are expensive ($1,000+) and expensive to fix. Second, though there are videos on the web were people drop them on the floor or throw them into swimming pools, most of us know better than to abuse them like this. The fact is, rugged PDAs aren't as necessary as many people think.

I would like to be able to buy a cheap mobile device that isn't rugged and throw it away if it breaks or get it repaired for something less than 50% of the original purchase price. Low end android based tablets are getting cheap so why use a high priced rugged device? Maybe the only barrier to this strategy is ESRIs unrealistic assumptions about the needs of its user base.
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DanikBourdeau
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The fact is, rugged PDAs aren't as necessary as many people think.


It all depends what environment you're working in.  If you're working in an urban area and all you're doing is getting out of the car to collect a few points I completely agree with you but that's certainly not my situation.  My field teams work in the Australian bush for two weeks straight putting in 10-12 hours a day.  The PDA's take a beating; their constantly being dropped, people slip and use them to brace their fall, not to mention the dust and the +50 degree heat.  I don't think we have any option but to use rugged PDA's.

However, Trimble's new Juno now comes in an Android version 🙂  Trend setting I predict.
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GermanVazquez_Carreon
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  Currently I run ArcPad on an HP211 but they don't make those anymore.



The problem here is this:

¿What are you waiting for to make ArcPAD  runs on ANDROID?     WE NEED IT.      Right now are devices faster, cheaper, and with a bigger screen,  the only thing we need is that ArcPAD can run on them.


When you compare a device with Windows 6.0, 6.5 or else,  against a TABLET. You note this:

1.- The speed of their  processors  is too slow.
2.-The screen is too small.
3.-They are very expensive.
4.- They are not fabricated any more.



I,ve been working with several HP IPAQ´s, and even they do the job, the screen is too small for some uses.  We use ArcPAD 7.0 as a platform for some tools we develop for register the electric lines, along with the atributes. But when you have some hundreds points, the HP IPAQ becomes so slow, that makes the job very dificult. When you are 8 hours under the sun, that becomes a problem. If you add a layer with a map on the background, it becomes a nightmare.
The sun and dust are problem too, the screen scratches, and you need to replace it, or the touch screen dont work anymore because of the heat.  We have to send to repair to the only shop that have the replacements and can do the job. It takes at least a week, and cost a half a price of an used HP IPAQ. It´s known that PDA´s are history, in a wolrd with several smartphones.


Another point, is that you need an external device for catching de GPS coordinates. We use Garmin GPS 10x Bluetooth.

So you are around in field, with two devices, for doing your job.



Then we used the Trimble NOMAD, it works very good, is fast, has an integrated GPS , BUT, its too expensive. We have only one of them.

Another option, is use de Honeywell Dolphin 9900. Same that NOMAD, a little cheaper, not so fast, but we only have few and have to ask them borrowed to another deparments.



So, a Tablet  would be great to do the job.
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JamesEngland1
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I agree with many of the comments posted here but it suprises me that ESRI havent grasped this market. For those who cant see why you would want it, answer the following questions:

1) Show me a Windows Mobile device with a quad core processor?
2) Show me that has 32Gb built in?
3) ndroid smartphones are able to use built in compasses, GPS and cell triangulation to help get quicker location fix.

I accept that the GPS will not be as capable but for my needs they have been fine.......

I hope that it gets developed and the first fully equipped GIS software for Android will do very well.......then all we need is Otterbox to make a further range of rugged cases for some popular Android tablets and I can see this being a mayor break through.
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RichardFrancis
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The android Panasonic Toughpad FZ-A1 with ArcPAD would suit me. The Motion tablets we are using now are just not rugged enough and replacement screens cost the same as a new machine.

Come on ESRI!
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