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Hi Chris, The IT guys tell me that it has 124Tb of disk storage and there is a 6Tb SSD cache in front of that. They have said that there is no way to allocate what is in cache and what isn't. My theory is that on the initial hit to the imagery the data is not in cache so it takes ages to drag it off the disk into cache and then serve it out. Once it is in cache it is faster than the NetApp. If you then run the test again it is quick. If you don't touch the imagery for a period of time it seems to get flushed from cache so the next time it is hit it takes a long time to drag it off the disk again and into cache. This was confirmed when running the tests 24hrs apart. Here are some bench marks that I have done. Some in PerfQA and some as raw disk benchmarks outside of any ArcGIS software. In the PerfQA runs, look at the test iteration duration. PerfQA - NetApp --------------------------------------- RENDERING RESULTS PerfQA Analyzer (Standalone) 10.3.0.168 --------------------------------------- Test Machine: User: ArcGIS Product: Desktop ArcGIS Version: 10.3.1.4959 Map: H:\StorageSpeedTesting\NetAppSource.mxd Date/Time: 19/05/2016 4:28:35 PM --------------------------------------- Hardware Acceleration: Disabled --------------------------------------- --- Iteration #1 --- Extent #1 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 332183.623, 7187094.172, 463014.145, 7288313.999) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:35,316] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00047, 0.48561, 0.00125, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.48784 Extent #2 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 388704, 7255838, 434159, 7282970) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:35,847] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.40605, 0.00124, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.40795 Extent #3 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432883, 7247799, 436236, 7249800) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:36,283] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 1.15738, 0.00128, 0.00047, 0.00002, 1.15932 Extent #4 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 393566, 7226441, 448302, 7259111) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:37,469] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.35397, 0.00127, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.35591 Extent #5 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 409338, 7229189, 441658, 7248480) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:37,859] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.98752, 0.00127, 0.00050, 0.00002, 0.98948 Extent #6 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 322807, 7245887, 377543, 7278557) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:38,873] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.39867, 0.00123, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.40057 Extent #7 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432344, 7248328, 435018, 7249924) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:39,310] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.37011, 0.00129, 0.00059, 0.00003, 0.37217 Extent #8 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 437788, 7251023, 439102, 7251807) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:39,715] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 1.37626, 0.00129, 0.00049, 0.00002, 1.37823 Extent #9 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 434807, 7252405, 434974, 7252505) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:41,119] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.54258, 0.00128, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.54453 Extent Minimum: 0.356, Maximum: 1.378, Average: 0.677 Test iteration duration: 00:00:06.403 --- Iteration #2 --- Extent #1 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 332183.623, 7187094.172, 463014.145, 7288313.999) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:41,712] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00017, 0.32611, 0.00131, 0.00047, 0.00002, 0.32809 Extent #2 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 388704, 7255838, 434159, 7282970) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:42,086] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.35109, 0.00129, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.35304 Extent #3 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432883, 7247799, 436236, 7249800) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:42,508] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00017, 0.31580, 0.00126, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.31773 Extent #4 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 393566, 7226441, 448302, 7259111) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:42,866] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.33235, 0.00126, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.33427 Extent #5 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 409338, 7229189, 441658, 7248480) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:43,241] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.34847, 0.00126, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.35039 Extent #6 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 322807, 7245887, 377543, 7278557) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:43,631] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.32566, 0.00126, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.32758 Extent #7 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432344, 7248328, 435018, 7249924) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:44,021] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.31893, 0.00122, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.32081 Extent #8 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 437788, 7251023, 439102, 7251807) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:44,380] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.32969, 0.00127, 0.00049, 0.00003, 0.33164 Extent #9 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 434807, 7252405, 434974, 7252505) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:44,770] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014_25cm, 0.00016, 0.35147, 0.00126, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.35340 Extent Minimum: 0.318, Maximum: 0.353, Average: 0.335 Test iteration duration: 00:00:03.462 PerfQA - Nimble --------------------------------------- RENDERING RESULTS PerfQA Analyzer (Standalone) 10.3.0.168 --------------------------------------- Test Machine: User: ArcGIS Product: Desktop ArcGIS Version: 10.3.1.4959 Map: H:\StorageSpeedTesting\NimbleSource.mxd Date/Time: 19/05/2016 4:28:55 PM --------------------------------------- Hardware Acceleration: Disabled --------------------------------------- --- Iteration #1 --- Extent #1 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 332183.623, 7187094.172, 463014.145, 7288313.999) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:55,206] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00048, 0.42842, 0.00132, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.43072 Extent #2 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 388704, 7255838, 434159, 7282970) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:55,674] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 0.15836, 0.00148, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.16050 Extent #3 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432883, 7247799, 436236, 7249800) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:55,877] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 1.32930, 0.00134, 0.00048, 0.00002, 1.33131 Extent #4 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 393566, 7226441, 448302, 7259111) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:57,234] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 0.17589, 0.00122, 0.00050, 0.00002, 0.17779 Extent #5 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 409338, 7229189, 441658, 7248480) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:57,437] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 1.31651, 0.00138, 0.00047, 0.00002, 1.31855 Extent #6 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 322807, 7245887, 377543, 7278557) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:58,778] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 0.20759, 0.00135, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.20961 Extent #7 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432344, 7248328, 435018, 7249924) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:28:59,028] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 72.45965, 0.00133, 0.00048, 0.00002, 72.46164 Extent #8 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 437788, 7251023, 439102, 7251807) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:30:11,541] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 62.00180, 0.00135, 0.00048, 0.00002, 62.00382 Extent #9 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 434807, 7252405, 434974, 7252505) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:13,582] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 8.20153, 0.00143, 0.00049, 0.00002, 8.20363 Extent Minimum: 0.161, Maximum: 72.462, Average: 16.255 Test iteration duration: 00:02:26.628 --- Iteration #2 --- Extent #1 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 332183.623, 7187094.172, 463014.145, 7288313.999) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:21,834] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 0.13879, 0.00130, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.14076 Extent #2 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 388704, 7255838, 434159, 7282970) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:22,021] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 0.25686, 0.00129, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.25882 Extent #3 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432883, 7247799, 436236, 7249800) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:22,333] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00017, 0.31134, 0.00131, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.31333 Extent #4 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 393566, 7226441, 448302, 7259111) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:22,692] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00018, 0.21799, 0.00136, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.22003 Extent #5 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 409338, 7229189, 441658, 7248480) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:22,957] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00015, 0.15674, 0.00131, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.15871 Extent #6 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 322807, 7245887, 377543, 7278557) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:23,160] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 0.15897, 0.00133, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.16096 Extent #7 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 432344, 7248328, 435018, 7249924) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:23,363] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 0.31232, 0.00130, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.31429 Extent #8 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 437788, 7251023, 439102, 7251807) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:23,737] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00015, 0.11939, 0.00140, 0.00049, 0.00002, 0.12145 Extent #9 (XMin, YMin, XMax, YMax = 434807, 7252405, 434974, 7252505) Rendering Start Time: [2016-05-19 16:31:23,909] Layer, Background, Geography, Annotation, Selection, GeoSelection, Total BRC_2014, 0.00016, 0.09907, 0.00129, 0.00048, 0.00002, 0.10102 Extent Minimum: 0.101, Maximum: 0.314, Average: 0.199 Test iteration duration: 00:00:02.236 And here is the results of the raw disk benchmark between the two. It quite cleary shows that there is some sort of issue, but just need to find where. So hence trying to find anyone else using Nimble to see what their performance is like and how they have the device configured. Regards Steve
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Hi Everyone, We are currently in the process of rebuilding our virtual ArcGIS Servers on a Nimble Storage Adaptive Flash Array and I am seeing random performance problems. At this stage our SQLServer has been migrated to this storage and we have seen a decline in performance, and when comparing rendering times of imagery between the new and the old infrastructure there is an initial massive performance hit. I know that there are lots and lots of other underlying networking hardware and OS configuration issues that could also be contributing to the issue, but at this stage I am just looking to track down any other ArcGIS Server users that are running ArcGIS Server on a Nimble so that we can start to get an idea if there any other factors that could be causing the performance issues or whether the Nimble isn't capable of handling this type of use case. Also, as of this afternoon I am on leave for a few weeks so if any comments are left, it will be a few weeks before I can come back with any additional info etc. Regards Steve
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