21 Replies Latest reply on Jun 19, 2014 8:04 AM by Tomsriv

    Windows 7 compatibility

    riaanrobbeson
      Hi
      Does anyone know if Arcview 3.2a is compatible with Windows 7 (32bit).  I am considering upgrading, but don't want to cause myself compatibility problems.
      Tx
      RR
        • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
          johns
          It will install and run on the 32 bit.  It will not on a 64 bit because the installer is 16 bit.  As always with Windows 7 run any install as an Administrator.  If you have any problems you can right click on the installer file and run it under compatibility mode for XP; and even do the same for the actual program.  Having said this I don't think ESRI would support it on Windows 7.  I can't say if it will run without any problems.  Even on XP it did some funky things for me like not opening back up fully after minimizing despite using the XP patch.
          • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
            jbarry-esristaff
            Hi
            Does anyone know if Arcview 3.2a is compatible with Windows 7 (32bit).  I am considering upgrading, but don't want to cause myself compatibility problems.
            Tx
            RR


            Microsoft provides a free XP Mode vm you can download and install onto Windows 7.

            Few months back I installed it, then installed AV3 on it, and it seemed to run fine.
            • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
              jbarry-esristaff
              That's exactly the application I was describing, Jim.  It seemed to run fine for me, too, until I tried opening a large apr file.  It just won't do it unless I spend minutes wiggling the mouse in front of the AV window to keep it from getting preempted by the OS.  That's a show-stopper.


              Understood.  I just wanted to add the download link.

              As for limitations you are or may run into, I hear you.   And as you implied, new work on AV3 including platform testing is no longer planned.
              • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                znieh
                ArcView 3.x runs fine on my Win7_64 machine.


                Best regards
                • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                  jbarry-esristaff
                  I started to respond because I was *absolutely sure* it would not run on mine--I thought I remembered trying it.  But who is that sure of anything?  So I grabbed the entire contents of C:/ESRI/AV_GIS30 from a networked XP computer, copied them into C:/ESRI on a Win 7-64 machine, associated C:/ESRI/AV_GIS30/ARCVIEW/BIN32/arcview.exe with all .apr files, and fired up some projects.  It works!

                  Thank you!


                  Huh...

                  Nice...

                  OK...

                  Thanks for that.  Never thought to try because it sounds so much like it wouldn't work.  Or if it did work, who knows what problems might pop up. Good to know in case anyone asks if anyone's tried; I'll point to this thread.  Unsupported of course.  ;-)
                  • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                    beichenlaub
                    I started to respond because I was *absolutely sure* it would not run on mine--I thought I remembered trying it.  But who is that sure of anything?  So I grabbed the entire contents of C:/ESRI/AV_GIS30 from a networked XP computer, copied them into C:/ESRI on a Win 7-64 machine, associated C:/ESRI/AV_GIS30/ARCVIEW/BIN32/arcview.exe with all .apr files, and fired up some projects.  It works!

                    Thank you!


                    I also copied from a networked XP computer but on start up got an error associated with "mtch.dll" which was in C:\Program Files\Common Files\ESRI    on the old machine.

                    Rather than deal with registering the files from that folder I copied them all to the new machines folder:   C:/ESRI/AV_GIS30/ARCVIEW/BIN32\

                    I also copied the files in C:\Program Files\Common Files\ESRI\Raster\bin\ntx86\ to
                    C:/ESRI/AV_GIS30/ARCVIEW/BIN32

                    Copied ESRI fonts from C:\Windows\Fonts to new machine, right clicked on them all and 'Installed'.

                    ArcView 3.3, with Spatial Analyst, is running fast as blazes on Windows 7 64-bit.
                    • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                      brandsig
                      ArcView 3.x runs fine on my Win7_64 machine.


                      Best regards


                      Hi! I have now Win7_64 and I copy the directories from old PC of my ArcView 3.2, and when I run it it says "Can't find hardware Key" !!!!! What can I do???

                      Mariana
                      • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                        cobeycreek
                        Thank you all.:cool:

                        I too followed beichenlaub outline and Arcview 3x runs like a hot dang.  I did not replace existing files when copied over.

                        Much faster than the ver10.  It never ran well in the virtual XP mode on 7, I never could get it to see the network drives.

                        I like the idea of Arcview 20....;)
                        • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                          jblundquist
                          How about Installing ArcView 3.2 and extensions from original disks

                          I see someone mentioned copying the c:\esri folder and pasting in/on Windows 7 64 bit. Sounds easy enough; however, I thought the installation process partly consisted of putting certain files in certain places in order for the whole thing to work? Oddly enough, I work as a GIS Specialist and know little about the computer. My oversight, excuse me.

                          So, I have to be led by the nose (really good and thorough intructions).

                          Could I really just copy my ESRI folder on my xp machine to an external drive and then transfer it to my new machine?

                          I have read Beichenlaub's comment

                          Otherwise, can I use my original installation disks?

                          Thanks in advance for the education

                          John Lundquist
                          • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                            MartinHvidberg
                            ... Good to know in case anyone asks if anyone's tried; I'll point to this thread.  Unsupported of course.  ;-)


                            What about license issues? Is it okay to copy to another computer, as long as it's the same owner?

                            :-? M
                            • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                              jbarry-esristaff
                              Never heard of that before on arc view 32.


                              In many countries outside the US, Esri required a hardware key for ArcView 3 to run.
                              • Windows 7 compatibility - 64 bit, SP1, 2 gener Core I7,SSD - Segmentation Violation!
                                torkel
                                I have got AV3.3 to work pretty well on lot of different Windows Vista and 7 32 and 64-bit systems the last 2 years. Just a month ago I obtained a new laptop with 2 generation core I7-processor (2640) and a 256 Gb SSD drive. I copied the program files and edited the registry as usual and sat the TEMP/TMP env variables, and AV seemed to work well at a glance. First when trying to Save the first project I found out something was wrong - I got Segmentation Violation! and no saving at all - and aplication useless. Also got the same when trying to open Extensions on the File-menu. After reinstalling a couple of times, even tried to move the program to the other non SSD drive, and even more modyfiing of the register without success, I was about to resign, thinking time finally had came for AV3.x to retire. Though I found it smart to read the technical paper about AV and "Segmentation Violation" first...

                                And so I managed to solve the save-project problem with setting system variable HOME (which I normally don't have set), but I still couldn't open Extensions...

                                But, I also had found out that the SV easy would come from AV not finding directories or files. After some more back and forth I found out that the "Startup" file in the ETC directory gave directions to the BIN32 and EXT32 directories if it was a 32-bit win environment and to BIN16/EXT16 if if it was in a 16-bit win env. So what if the program for some reason misread the 64-bit windows to 16? So the simplest thing was to change BIN16/EXT16 to BIN32/EXT32 in the startup-file.

                                And after I did that everything just works fine!
                                • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                  jblundquist
                                  The short answer
                                  on xp machine copy AV_GIS30; C:\ESRI\AV_GIS30 and paste to Windows 7 machine C:\ESRI for C:\ESRI\AV_GIS30
                                  on xp machine copy ESRI; C:\Program Files\Common Files\ESRI and paste into windows 7 machine C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files for C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\ESRI. this is where the mtch dll needs to be.
                                  • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                    hopefulz1
                                    Looks like this thread has not been visited lately. I did the copy over for the ArcView 3.3 to the 64 bit computer and it worked. However, I have lost most of the point related graphics. All dots are number signs now and my choices are limited to a very few, and not at all what I am used to seeing as the default point graphics for 3.2, 3.3, etc. on different computers I have accessed the program in the past. Not sure how to get the graphics back up to basic par. Any help? Also, I can't seem to "Print to" anything but hardware printers even if my PDF programs appear in the printing option dialog box. If I try to print my Layout to, say, ScanSoft PDF Create 4 or even 8, the Layout just grinds away and I get a not responding program and have to end program. I can export in jpeg but with a max of 144 dpi the export is a draft quality at best. Any help there? Otherwise, ArcView 3.3 works great on 64-bit once you copy it over. I'm sure these two issues are pretty easy to work out.

                                    Cheers
                                    • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                      johns
                                      Did you copy the fonts over too?  See beichenlaub's steps.
                                      • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                        tvzzz
                                        The short answer
                                        on xp machine copy AV_GIS30; C:\ESRI\AV_GIS30 and paste to Windows 7 machine C:\ESRI for C:\ESRI\AV_GIS30

                                        on xp machine copy ESRI; C:\Program Files\Common Files\ESRI and paste into windows 7 machine C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files for C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\ESRI. this is where the mtch dll needs to be.


                                        ===

                                        I need the ArcView For Idiots version! I did this (above). Now how do I start the program? And the last sentence, "this is where the mtch dll needs to be."--Is that saying that I need to do something more after copying AV_GIS30 and ESRI as instructed?

                                        THANKS!
                                        TVZ
                                        • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                          jblundquist
                                          ===

                                          I need the ArcView For Idiots version! I did this (above). Now how do I start the program? And the last sentence, "this is where the mtch dll needs to be."--Is that saying that I need to do something more after copying AV_GIS30 and ESRI as instructed?

                                          THANKS!
                                          TVZ


                                          wow, 3x just keeps going. I think it's fun.
                                          Anyway, go to C:\ESRI\AV_GIS30\ARCVIEW\BIN32 , right click on arcview.exe and send to desktop. From there you can pin it to your taskbar or Start Menu

                                          enjoy
                                          • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                            tvzzz
                                            Thanks John. I got it to start, and loaded some data. However, I'm finding that the various themes are coming out in different places, although they're the same ones I was using on my old machine. Also, some seem to be elongated width-wise. I'm only a very occasional, self-taught ArcView user, so there's a lot I don't know. I looked at the extension list, and tried to check the same ones, but on "MrSID Image Support" the check mark came ouut solid, whereas on my old machine it is just an outline of a check mark. Don't know what that might mean. Do I just have to check them, or do I so something else with them?
                                            Thanks again!
                                            -TVZ
                                            • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                              jblundquist
                                              Thanks John. I got it to start, and loaded some data. However, I'm finding that the various themes are coming out in different places, although they're the same ones I was using on my old machine. Also, some seem to be elongated width-wise. I'm only a very occasional, self-taught ArcView user, so there's a lot I don't know. I looked at the extension list, and tried to check the same ones, but on "MrSID Image Support" the check mark came ouut solid, whereas on my old machine it is just an outline of a check mark. Don't know what that might mean. Do I just have to check them, or do I so something else with them?
                                              Thanks again!
                                              -TVZ


                                              Wow, haven't been here in a while. Your very welcome. I recommend you learn more about Projections. Mr. SID; sorry, can't help you there. Images are rasters with useless data.
                                              • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                                jblundquist
                                                Wow, haven't been here in a while. Your very welcome. I recommend you learn more about Projections. Mr. SID; sorry, can't help you there. Images are rasters with useless data.


                                                Oh my, did I say useless, excuse me. I use imagery all the time. Yes pictures are worth a thousand words, probably more actually. I just like to work with vector and tables. My bias.

                                                As for 3x. It's March 2014, I have 3x and ArcGIS 10x on my machine. The other day I had to pull up 3x for something, some old trick I suppose, can't remember the specifics, but it was fun.

                                                I like having both of them.
                                                • Re: Windows 7 compatibility
                                                  Tomsriv
                                                  If only ArcMap would run as fast as ArcView 3 runs on a 10 year old computer.  I'm hopeful to see what ESRI has in store with ArcGIS Pro.